At CycleOps, we are here to help you overcome any hesitation or confusion about getting your trainer and app set up. You can purchase scheduled in-home set up or phone guidance through CycleOps. After all, the goal is to ride AND have fun. Select Your Country United States. Rouvy Rouvy uses user-generated content to provide thousands of real-life rides from around the world and replicates them in your living room. Like the Blog? The PowerBeam Pro generates resistance when a the moving flywheel passes by a magnet.
The more flywheel speed wheel speed the easier it is for the system to generate resistance. Wanted to know if the newer versions of powerbeam transmit power data to the garmin edge. What manufacturing date do I have to look out for to ensure I get the updated units. Thank you. Keep in mind we have a pretty deep distribution structure so in some instances units may take some time to move through.
There is a date code stamped on each trainer. As an average cyclist preparing for Ironman Nice while living in flat Miami, what trainer do you recommend? One thing that was recommended to me was Computrainers spin analysis, do any of the other trainers have this feature? I am partial to Cycleops but am open to suggestions. We introduced it at Trek World earlier this month and it will be on show at Eurobike.
Availability should be sometime in September, maybe October. I bought cycleops power beam pro and the virtual training per your reviews…. It gives me the blue death screen. I thought that Ray spoke about how the support was much better than Bushido people. I am not so sure, right now.
Can you email me directly at jessebartholomew gmail. Obviously something fell through the cracks here. It was how relatively new Wahoo is and software availability for the Kickr, that held me back from buying it.
I am wondering how well the Kickr works with the cycleops virtual training software. It also looks like the current Power Beam Pro is off the website and two versions will be available at some point, including a Bluetooth smart version.
I will keep an eye here for comments. Please comment if you have negative experience with the wahoo and virtual training. As long as all goes well I will comment back once I have real virtual experience myself. Just checked clever training, and they seem reasonable with shipping to Canada. Very nice. Nice find! I was just making my usual rounds in my search for the right decision when I noticed all the changes. It really surprised me yesterday in a pleasant way when I noticed it.
I am hoping that the subscription means other options like head to head racing are on the horizon. All told, My Kickr is on the way. I hope what it says online is real. I will pay the subscription. I hope to hate winter a bit less this year. UPS charges us Canadians a ridiculous brokerage fee to collect border taxes. Finally Cycleops has announced that subscriptions to their virtual training software are launching October 7th.
On Clever training, they were great, their shipping department did not know that UPS charges huge brokerage fees to collect sales tax at the Canadian border. Once they were told, they refunded me in the amount of the brokerage UPS charged me. Clever training was exceptional. For me this is great aspect. The video slowing down or speeding up makes the climb real! Quality is an issue though.
Really looking forward to buy this thing. Thanks for the great review and awesome site. Is there any difference in their abilities to automatically control the resistance unit?
If not, is there any benefit to choosing one over the other — for instance preprogrammed training plans, etc… Thanks so much for any help with this decision. I won a raffle that included all of these. The trainer and software will monitor my speed, power, cadence etc. I have a question. It feels like you are turning an oval wheel, instead of a round one. Has anyone upgraded to the subscription-based Virtual Training software? I am trying to decide if it is worth paying the monthly fee for.
I know they have added power-based workouts. Has any other functionality been improved? Has anyone tried riding any RealLife Video courses? I am currently making a couple video courses of my own, but I find the video gets really choppy in the places where I try to line up points in the video to points on the map. Some professionally-made courses Ironman, etc. I can guess on interval training but what the heck is profile training? Is there a way to manually set up a 1.
I currently have a powertap and Joule 2. Issue is mental trainer fatigue, I can get through threshold intervals but cant stand to be on the trainer more than 90 minutes, I am hopeful the courses will help on rides past 90 minutes. I specificlly got the powerbeam to ride video courses and while the resoluton isnt great on some of the videos I suspect it will only get better. Other than uploading gps routes and controling resistance on the head unit what do I miss out on having a joule 2.
I figure when my outdoor season starts I may grab a garmin , but reality is with Strava premium and every route I ride being in there I can download the gpx file for just about everything. I get I can create a workout in poweragent but wanted to know if there exists or is planned the ability to select an Interval workout based on FTP? It seems like the connection is lost between my PC and the trainer. It happens about every 10 minutes.
Suddenly the trainer backs off the power and picks up again about 5 seconds after. Strange thing. This also have the effect of making it harder for users to add more video content. Which, I believe, would benefit the company in terms of being able to attract more users.
They should turn it around so that you get a month free if you submit a new video route and this route gets approved.
Just wanted to follow up, I found out I cannot adjust the Powerbeam with a joule 2. I confirmed this when I called Saris Support today. Figured out my powerbeam is about 30w to 40w higher than my Powertap. Because of this they are sending me a Joule GPS unit as part of the warranty so I can manually configure the powerbeam. Cant say enough good things about Saris support. Was great fun! Love the concept!
My recent email to CycleOps concerning a major issue with this software. This product is an expensive commitment, how it could be released in this manner perplexes me. I appreciate DC Rainmaker for providing this forum for comments. I am a diehard believer in training using watts, specifically your products.
I have a ton invested in using your system. I live at 7 feet, so my indoor cycling equipment is important to me as winters mean a lot of snow, and no outdoor cycling.
The training routes, however, are extremely limited when using the tablet iPad version, as are the interval training workouts. Your website suggests building routes on the Desktop version of the software and downloading such after logging in on the tablet version. To do this, however, would require that I purchase a PC I only own Apple products ; then I would need to purchase a Desktop subscription in order to build routes to use on my tablet. This is not a viable solution, by any means.
To say that your company is the leader in watts based training would be an understatement. You build robust and reliable products for real world use, however, your dedication to PC based operating systems is highly questionable.
This dedication leaves a big gap when it comes to native Mac applications, and is, currently, the downfall of your product.
I am feeling this way right now with my PRO. I was unaware at the time of purchase that you would not be intending to support your product with a native Mac application In short, I am stuck, with a product which does not apply to me, as I do not use a PC. It is clear, after reading his review, that this software and the PRO was intended only for PC owners, with Mac users left out in the cold. This turn of events has left me thoroughly dissatisfied with my choice to upgrade to the PRO.
Your current marketing dilutes your brand as you have a solid mass of users who are treated as second class citizens. Not sure if you got a reply to your letter to us or not but thanks for taking the time to express your dissatisfaction and for posting it here.
We chose tablet iPad and Android versions are now available. What worked last year should work this year, because I paid full price for this thing. Update: the server apparently was down when I tried to connect, and that manifest itself as Google Earth not wanting to load.
Not sure why that should be a dependency, but whatever. They have gotten the server fixed and it loads and runs as normal. However, the next time I started it up it applied a software update and now Calibration has stopped working.
Purchasing it here in Canada in late a lot seams to have changed, not all for the best. I am now waiting for a Joule 3. Sorry for the confusion Mike, between and there were two big changes- first we went to a subscription based approach to support tablet apps. Sounds like you got steered towards the wrong option. Do you have a iPad or Android tablet at all?? If so you could skip the Joule 3. Will this new standard be implemented by CycleOps in the future and if so does it require a firmware update by sending it to Saris?
Perhaps only a software update to VT will do the trick? Any time frame for a Mac Desktop software package? But that they were looking at ways to possibly send in a unit to get updated. He may be able to clarify though. Thanks for the great review! The thing that I find most despicable is that desktop software users are now having their course download bandwidth throttled A 2. Surely the people who made the outlay for the software in the first place should be applauded for getting the thing off the ground rather than being victimised for not wanting to pay yet more money out for something we have already purchased.
Some may argue that software upgrades would have to be paid for anyway, and I can kinda see that, but throttling the bandwidth of downloads so that you have little choice but to pay out more money is holding current software holders to ransom. Not impressed I have to say, maybe this decision needs looking at again if keeping current customers happy is important!
Any cyclops joule users out there having problems working with poweragent. Saris is looking at the problem, but wondered if this was a widespread issue or local to me only. I get error messages ie duplicate column name, when trying to save activity to PA and transgferring workouts.
Can I bypass the joule with VT? And save activity that way? There are some occasional seemingly random glitches but overall the process has been pretty good and getting better. There are some fun rides through great sights and some are actual races. If anyone has some good routes to recommend please post them. Great purchase and thanks to the guidance from your review. I do have four questions…. After starting a ride I quickly go the Music icon and start a Playlist. Upon switching back to the Virtual Training app the music gets turned off.
Is there some way to play music from the iPad while riding in Virtual Trainer that I have not figured out? Is there someway to stream or mirror the Virtual Trainer app to my flat-screen tv? Is there somewhere in the Virtual Training app that gives details about what all the output data means — particularly, in the Power Details section? The Joule 2. This seems like the kind of oversite that smart people at an exceptional company like Cyclops would not make.
Thank you so much for all of your outstanding reviews. Your attention to detail and fairness is fantastic.
Now, my question. The person I talked with while helpful was not at all familiar with the first version. If I understand correctly, this older CycleOps cannot take advantage of the Virtual Training as a stand alone and in reality then the trainer would just be like any other trainer without power? Any thoughts on the above would be most appreciated and if I confused everyone my apologies and I can try to clarify.
In the User information there is a spot for Altitude in in. I sent it my unit and they flashed it for free and are in the process of returning it. Loved the product before, but love how responsive the company was to my request. A very valuable and accurate source of information. All works as currently advertised. Set-up was relatively painless. Had an issue with the first calibration of the unit using VT where the display kept going and going.
Closed the program, restarted and everything was good. No problems since. Eventually, the Alcatraz to the bridge demo will get tiring. You can also program any 20 minute interval.
I have a great wife that bought me this for Christmas. Plus the incompatibility with Garmin connect and ant agent is simply inexcusable. Another major fail is how long it takes to engage changes in power on a pre-programmed training session with power. Lets say you set up an interval training session with 5 minutes at watts and then 2 minutes of recovery at watts and you repeat this 10 times. Update on my post.
After many work arounds I finally found out the issue was due to a hidden to me security protocol running on my computer. My company was running Blue coat security and that combined with a few other apps running in the background made for incompatibility that was choking this system.
My first fix was simply to turn off internet access for the workout. Subsequently, whatever updates Virtual Training has made or my company has made to my laptop these problems have gone away. Hi Ray. Hope you can help. Last night I uploaded my first route to VT, but it seems that the video is missing, when I try to download on my iPad. Next problem, is the size of the video. As my sd-card is formatted in exfat I think I only have about 20 minutes of video? Do you, and if so how, do you combine more mp4 files?
And then what about sizes? And one more thing. How do you combine the gpx files. That is, does this feature only exist when using the CycleOps Virtual Training software with the CycleOps Powerbeam Pro, or will this work with other combinations as well? If the software would work in this manner with other trainers, please can you say which ones it works for?
So in the case of the PowerBeam, you can do that with the CycleOps Training Suite, or with 3rd party products like Kinomap that work with the trainer.
I find it inline with other trainers and other power meters. So usually a few percent. Proper calibration however is super-important. In the end I got a weblog from where I know how to genuinely obtain helpful information regarding my study and knowledge. Hi Ray, Huge thanks for all your great reviews! One question regarding the subscription service of Cycleops or any others u may have tried such as Kinomap, etc. Can you create more than 1 profile on it? Just signed up and videos wont work, I can play them on the website but just a grey screen in the desktop version.
Tried emailing support and after signing up to their support site received nothing. PC not an issue I bought a very powerful one for exactly this kind of thing. Any help would be appreciated. I have just installed cycleops virtual trainer, however the only issue i have is , as soon as i hit an incline it becomes almost impossible to ride, i use a power beam Pro with joule 3.
Simply am i missing something i have noted you are supposed to change gear with the joystick on the Joule but cannot seem to get this to work. Would it still be worth it? Do you know if the virtual training is compatible with google chromecast? In other word if I have it up on my PC can I throw it to the tv with chromecast?
Yes, it does. Hey Patrick! What android os are you running? I like the idea of the trainer holding me at a certain power level for some intervals. Yup, you can set it to a specific grade instead, which does exactly that.
Most people will set it to a few percent and then just go to town. My average rides are kilometers on Saturday and Sundays. The biggest drawback was I was forced into running Windows 8 as windows 7 does not support the virtualtraining software. Your review was a big help in setting up and getting everything to work. The virtual training is amazing and I ride 3 times a week, usually 25 kilometer runs.
I do have one problem. When riding at higher speeds everything feels right but the recorded speed is just too high. Speed indicates 52 klm per hour but I usually only hit like 40 klm per hour in real life.
Is there something I need to adjust? Oh just for your information my power at these speeds is like watts which for my build seems fairly accurate. Any ideas?
Thanks for your feed back. Rene Wittmer. I was pretty much forced into a Virtual Trainer software update and then, fourteen days later, I was notified that my account was expired and that I needed to get into the virtual store and buy a new account license. I am the original buyer and my DVD case in which the ANT stick was stored contains my original account number which no longer works-I plugged the account number in and was told it was expired.
To say I am ticked-off is an understatement. This happen to anyone else? I will call customer service of course but thanks to the holidays I was left to play old workout videos rather than use VT. I know that the Suunto Movescount on is: link to amazon. Both the mini versions of Suunto and Garmin will work just fine, both shown in the first three results.
How did you find the quality of the video rides of the Virtual Training app? Was it HD quality? While training — and I never stop pedaling — the cadence drops to 0. Maybe as many as time in a 1 hour ride. Makes the resulting graphic display of the data rather messy and the cadence data a bit inaccurate. I just purchased a cycleops pro powerbeam bluetooth. I can not get it paired with my samsung galaxy tab pro My tablet does have bluetooth 4.
The tablet does fine the powerbeam and it can be used but it intermittly drops. I think it needs to be paired to work right. I hope you can help me with this. This was a great review and really helped. CycleOps rolled out a bunch of updates to its Virtual Training web portal and desktop app. These changes start with the Activity Graph.. The data from the computer can be uploaded into their Power Agent software free download, PC or Mac and exported into an all important Work towards your goals with custom training, get inspired by TrainingPeaks' Workout of With this speed data, compatible training programs can calculate estimated power ErgVideo is a virtual training app for cyclists and triathletes using live-action Use our free software, or subscribe to our series of over original, exclusive videos that place you in the middle of the action.
Realistic training and racing experience. Great product and user support. Drafting and turning very realistic. Tom Birch — Google Play Store Great ride feel, drafting and dynamic racing with cornering adding realism. Anonymous — Google Play Store My fellow cyclist out there.
Anonymous — App Store Real peloton dynamics and the ability to upload any road make this the only virtual cycling platform suitable for real world race training. Anonymous — Google Play Store Been a user since beta.
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